Friday, May 20, 2011

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Announcing my new newsletter, "Tales From My Adventures Into the Unknown". This newsletter will give me the opportunity to share a lifetime of adventure, exploration, ancient mystery investigation, gold prospecting and treasure hunting with you. I look forward to your comments and feedback as we go.

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From: Tarshome
Subject: gold mining in ecuador

We will be in Quito the end of September and first of October this year. We have our travel plans and a translator set up. We are hoping to do a little more than panning. Ultimately we would like to get and use a backhoe and trommels. At the very least we would be happy using a highbanker. Where in Quito can we get that type of equipment and who do we need to speak with to get permission to use their land or can you suggest an area. So we can make plans and arrangements for the equipment prior to our leaving to come down there?

Stan's Reply: What you are wanting to do is a tall order in Ecuador. In my humble opinion, you can only lose money with such an attempt. To get set up properly for a mid-size operation, you really need to either live here or have a salaried representative engaged in a longer-term project on your behalf. I have no easy, fast answers about renting heavy equipment for a short-term in Quito or acquiring permission to work on someone's concession with a backhoe. A manual highbanking operation is much more feasible in the jungle with only, perhaps, a local Native landowner's permission for a small fee. Things are much different here than in North America. Best of Luck...

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Subject: Venezeula diamonds

Hello Stan, Your trip to Venezeula back in '99 (with the diamonds) seemed very interesting. I have been saving for some time to for an adventurous vacation I would like your expert advice on a trip such as yours. Are these areas in Venezuela still "virgin areas" ? When was your last visit? Thanks and God Bless!! Kevin.

Hi Kevin, Yes, the Gran Savannah is still highly virgin territory. I know because
I get emails periodically from people who have tried to reach my secret spots. When they try to hike in, they are repelled by the hot weather. When they try to drive in, they are often turned back by high water. I still like the idea of flying in to remote mining camp sites and backpacking. Let me know how you do. Don't forget to take a black light.
Regards, Stan

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Subject: Venezuela question

Stan, First of all, this sounds way too good to be true. All we have to do is fly into the grasslands of Venezuela, go to a stream or two and simply collect diamonds. So why aren't millions of people doing this (or are they?). Anyway, my specific questions are:
1) has anyone ever reported that they have experienced life-threatening issues with other prospectors, locals or tribesmen?
2) how long would you estimate a trip should take to be able to gather up enough diamonds to amount to, say, $1mm dollars US? I'd greatly appreciate your response. Thanks, ST



Hi Scott, What sounds so easy to you on the surface is nearly impossible for the vast
majority. How old are you? What experience do you have in exploring remote parts of South America where there is no bus service or maintained roads? Do you speak Spanish? Have you ever dealt with Native tribes whose language you do not speak? Have you ever had hyperthermia in a remote location? Do you have an in-depth knowledge of the geology of alluvial diamond deposits?

Perhaps your answers to these questions will reveal why this project seems so easy to you. Or, perhaps you are one in a hundred thousand, a seasoned explorer. If you are, then this project may actually be easy for you. Now, to answer your questions:

1) No one has ever reported anything to me. I don't know of any other person who has ever reached my sites after I was there. I only know of several failed attempts. Life-threatening issues are always a possibility and must always be considered.

2) To "gather up" $1 million dollars of raw diamonds could take anywhere between 6 months and 25 years depending on if you know what you are doing or not.

I hope this helps, Stan

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Subject: gold

Hello Stan, It's Jeff Elliott the gold diggin fool again. Hey I'm now diggin in a small creek that has lots of gold in it. It seems to be all small stuff for now. I'm in what you call this stuff the blue lead which is very beautiful material and yes a dark blue, greenish in color. Is this material acting as a false bedrock? It is soft to break up and is holding (trapping) quite abit of gold. Some pans tend to have 40 to 50 crumbs of gold in them and is it going to get better the deeper i go to hardrock which is anybodys guess. Please feel free to enlighten me with your expert opinion on the subject . Thank You, Jeff From Virginia. P.S. I can't wait to dredge this creek with air down deep. Who knows maybe i can pull up a half ounce to an ounce a day or more.


Hi Jeff, Without being able to see your material, I can only give you my guesses. Yes, your colored material does sound as if it is acting as a false bedrock. There are only two possibilities for what may lie beneath on the real bedrock. You likely know what those two possibilities are. The only real way to find out is to go down there with a drill or a dredge. The third possible way to know would be to find someone else who has been down to real bedrock and ask them. I wish I could be of greater help to you than this Jeff. It is like being an explorer. You have to really go there to know for sure.

Let me know how it turns out and keep up the good work! ...Stan

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From: seth atkinson
Subject: Giant Human Remains submitted by John Williams
Dear Stan, I find your website fascinating. Very interesting was the section entitled Giant Human Remains by John Williams. I’ve never heard of or seen any of these remains in any museum, and I’ve been to many, many museums. What happened to all these remains? What about the incredible, almost unbelievable antiquity of some of them? Who do you think has them? My feeling is some folks have these remains, but they are keeping them from the public. What do you think? My guess is if these remains were shown to the public, far too many uncomfortable, unanswerable questions would be raised. Probably it’s easier for them to keep these remains secret than it is to admit their picture of the past is far, far from ever being neat and complete. I’d really like to see the remains of the twelve foot giant found will full armor. Best Regards, Seth

Hi Seth, Thanks for your letter. Many giant skeletal remains have been confiscated and disposed of by the Smithsonian. Some are in deep storage thanks to various government agencies. Some searching on the internet and looking through certain books, gives one more details on the discovery and subsequent loss of these materials. Ancient American magazine is especially good to read about the subject. Also, check out books by Davis Hatcher
Childress. Good Luck, Stan

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From: Lisa Elaine
Subject: Aha! an Underground River

Hello Stan. A couple of years ago, when I lived in Oregon, I purchased your excerpt from Ancient Rivers of Gold and found the information to be very intriguing and enlightening. Since then, I have moved to Southern California and have been conducting my own research on mining sites and history in the area. I was just checking on the history of one such site, an old abandoned gold mine located between Lake Elsinore and the town of Perris, CA, and learned that the latest mining attempts were halted when they had to stop drilling because they ran into an underground stream! Apparently, that stream must consist of a large volume of water because once breached, it flooded the shaft and forced miners to shut down the mine completely. My gut feeling is that this may be exactly what Mr Wallace
was referring to when he wrote of the possible existance of an underground river, buried under thousands of years of lava flows and sediment, which could be tapped into to supply water to the Los Angeles basin. By diverting that underground channel, it would be possible to explore the layers of bedrock below for gold deposits. Good theory? What is your opinion and/or thoughts on this? They already built one Aquaduct to supply Los Angeles. Is building
another such a bad idea? Lord knows, clean, fresh water is in high demand down here. The water wouldn't have to travel nearly as far as it does with the existing Aquaduct. Just thinking of the possibilities makes me wonder if I could get enough backers to fund a project like this. If you have ideas, bring them on - I'm all ears! Lisa Williams


Hey Lisa, So nice to hear from you, especially about such an interesting subject. The clean, fresh water in the underground river is probably worth as much as gold these days. The project is potentially viable. However, it would require the coordination of a lot of money and expertise. If you could just find an entrance to the underground, gold-bearing river, you could probably fund the project yourself. Have you ever read Inca Gold by Clive
Custler? If not, you must. Please also check out these web sites:

http://www.bitofhistory.com/WebPages/CAWeb/LostRiverOfGold.html
http://www.e-adventure.net/land/caving/epdorr.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/kokoweef.html
http://www.star-one.org.uk/consp/anciv1.htm

Keep me posted on your investigations! Stan

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From: ernesto salvador
Subject: cueva de los tayos

Hi Stan, I can't find any news from your Cueva de los Tayos expedition and project, are you still working on it? do you have any plans? I'd appreciate any info about it.
Thanks. Ernesto

Hi Ernesto, The Cueva de los Tayos project is still alive. However, there are many obstacles in this project and often, progress is terribly slow. When there is any significant news available, I will put it on the web site. I am currently working on a project to help fund an expedition that can film and document new information, evidence and conclusions. If you know of any interested millionaires, please let me know. Best Wishes, Stan

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From: Alaska AL
Subject: 1912 PAYROLE ROBBERY
Stan, I don't know exactly how to put this....so how 'bout BLUNTLY. I know where a Wells Fargo payroll shipment (that was robbed in 1912) is buried. It is probably gold coins, as the payroll was for gold-miners. As rule of thumb, gold miners preferred being paid in gold (coins) as that was how they made their living. We are currently facing great financial hardships, and I am in risk of losing my home of 50 years. I am hoping there are some wealthy adventurer types that may be able to save my day, while getting wealthier and enjoying the adventure of the hunt. I can get the interested party within a couple feet of the location. More info if interested. Please E-mail me alaskaal@hotmail.com with any interest or leads to those who might be interested. Thanks, AL

Hi Al, Thanks for your interesting email. We'll certainly post your email on our web site to see if there is some interest in your project. Best of Luck! Stan

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From: Jared Stroech
Subject: Training Course

To Whom it May Concern: My name is Jared Stroech. I live and work in Arlington, VA as an accountant. I graduated from West Virginia University in December with a degree in Anthroplogy, and some how I ended up as an accountant. I believe, however, that my true calling is to be the next Indiana Jones...seriously. My archaeology classes fascinated me and not long ago I purchased a Whites MXT Metal Detector and find myself aching to get out and poke around to see what I can find. My job is quite slow and boring right now, although the income allows me to maintain a fairly comfortable life, although its not glamorous. I realized after graduation that a career in archaeology, treasure hunting, etc. is not financially beneficial unless you are successful, i.e. find things. That has always been the reason why I have held back my pursuit. I was surfing the internet today and I fell upon your website and realized that this is what I really want to be doing. I am young, single, and motivated enough to honestly pursue a career in this field. I would appreciate any information you could provide me as to how you started in this field and how you became successful. I am looking into purchasing your System, but if you are willing, I would like to hear from you directly. Please reply to this email address for I check it daily. Thank you and I look forward to your reply. Regards, Jared Stroech


Hi Jared, Good to hear from you. Sounds like we share of few of the same traits. First off, yes, my System is what I would recommend based on what you told me in your email. The best way to start off is to treat exploration, gold prospecting and treasure hunting as a hobby. See if you can integrate some writing skills, photography and/or videography into the hobby. Public speaking works well too. Or, try to establish a residual income in a field that you love. This means that you do the work once and continue to receive income from it for the rest of your life. Some examples are e-commerce, multi-level marketing, real estate rentals, royalties from anything, etc. This will make you free. Also, very importantly, stay debt free and keep your monthly overhead very low. As you progress with your exploration skills, you will begin to find some significant and valuable things. Learn to do the research. That will be 80%+ of your success. Learn some survival skills, first aid, a foreign language, etc. Before you know it, if you are driven and persistent, you will reach a level of expertise in some form of exploration that will pay you well and maybe even make you rich. However, the real riches are in the lifestyle.

I hope this helps, Stan

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From: Ahmed Saleh Musleh
Subject: Devices to discover diamonds
Dear Sir, I need your help. Could you please possibly let me know names of devices or instruments that are used for discovery of diamonds? Your positive reply will be highly appreciated Best regards, Ahmed Nasser Yemen

Hi Ahmed, Diamonds have a relatively high specific gravity and can therefore be concentrated by gravity. Anything from primitive screens (sarucas) to modern jigs are used to recover diamonds. Many diamonds also fluoresce under a black light. Some prospectors are beginning to use this method in the field. Good Luck, Stan

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From: Ronald
Subject: interesting story about giant bones

Stan, though i cant tell you where im from as well as who i am but. we found just such bones under our home. we live in an ancient cemetery and have found amazingly giant jaw and skull bones. well ok im from Maui. and there's a road in waihee and you can see the bones peeking out from the side of the road way. as for this was at least a 8 foot male very big. my house we found river rocks and beneath it was a giant jaw bone that my whole head fit
inside it. on Maui where the golf course is haunted 7 foot spirits haunts the inn and scared tourist can no longer play up there cause of golf balls flying and hitting the golfers by them selves. there's more but you get the idea what Maui is facing. Ronald

Thank you for your interesting email Ronald. Stan
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Subject: Washington treasures

Stan, I have wrote to you before. Is there any great treasures left in Washington State? Gold is what I am after, I do have about 8oz. from panning, lots of fun hard work!!!, although I looking for an adventure, is there any left in my state in which I will not get into any trouble with the law for looking for it? My name is Jeff Kissler, I am a 43 Y.O. Respiratory Therapist I would love to go on a adventure with you sometime they sound awsome, but, of course, I am not as well off as you and do not have the backing of sponsor like you do, so I'll have to do this on my own on my weekends and vacations, I hear of treasure in Washington but, its on someone elses land or its just a rumor. Can you help me will your book help me I have most gold books they all say about the same thing, I even have a few lost treasure books, even they tell about lost treasure in Washington but, Like I stated earlier its on private land and its unreachable. Please help!!! I've been a great fan of yours for a long time!!! I thought i would take a chance and write to you and see what happens I've got nothing to loose and everything to gain!!! Sincerely, Jeff Kissler


Hi Jeff, Thanks for your email. First off, YES, there is still a lot of treasure and gold in your state that can be found in "legal" places. However, you will have to do the tedious research to find it as I don't have much time these days to share all my research on Washington State with you by email. You should know that I do not have any "sponsors" that give me money for anything. All of my financing is money that I earned myself applying the techniques that I teach in my System "Creating Wealth Through Adventure" In my course, I share all of the secrets that I have figured out in over 30 years of experience in this business. Good Luck to You, Stan



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Subject: Gold Northeast Washington/area.
Dear Stan, Would like too know if your book on gold alluvials in rivers up here in the northwest of Washington within a fifty mile radus.+ Idaho in the shoshone area. Also in Murray idaho. Thank You Richard Mewes P.S. would like too buy your book.


Hi Richard, Yes, the Ancient Deposits Modern Wealth package does discuss the state of Washington and a little bit about Idaho too. The main thing is that you will learn exactly what to look for with ancient gold alluvials, no matter where you are in the world. The package has total international application.
Best Regards, Stan

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Subject: Treasure in the Philippines

Stan, I would like to propose a project here in the Philippines. I want to be straight about it. Perhaps you know about Japanese treasure deposited here in the Philippines in World War II, or if you want more details pls. log to yamashita-gold.com and you will see. At the present time my church members and I have two projects in two sites, both confirmed by a japanese treasure guide, but badly we run out of finance to finish the projects. One site holds 500 tons bullions and platinum bars, the other holds 1,000 tons gold bullions & Pt. bars also, its here in our island province of Negros Occidental, Philippines. If you can help us in any way, I would look into it and we will discuss further terms and conditions on this project. I assure you that this project will be well-rewarding for all of us.
Thank you very much. Pastor Raymund Pabalan Negros, Philippines raymundpabalan@yahoo.com

Hi Raymund, I receive requests, comments and questions about Yamashita's treasure nearly
every week. We will post your email on our web site in the event that some of our readers and visitors may be interested in working with you. Best of Luck, Stan

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Subject: refining gold


Hi Stan, some advice please, when smelting alluvial gold what can I use as a flux is there a easy way ,if any of removing any copper and silver that may be in the gold and is there an simple method of testing gold to determine if it is the real thing. The gold is from rivers and in the form of small nuggets. Thank you, Wessie.

Hi Wessie, Your questions are very good and normally require years of experience or thousands of dollars of training to acquire. I address these exact issues and much more in my Ancient Deposits Modern Wealth package. You can find info about my package here:
http://www.stangrist.com/AncientChannels.htm

Yes, you can refine gold at home and some of the basic ingredients for simple fluxing, assaying and refining are table salt, soda ash, wheat flour, lard, sand, borax and potash. You should either have training or experience before assaying or refining to avoid injury or worse. Good Luck to You, Stan

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Subject: gold prospecting expedition

Dear Stan, My name is Zenon Kobiela and I am currently working in Iraq. My intention is to earn enough money to finance a small gold prospecting expedition to Ecuador. All of my research and reading seems to indicate that you may be the authority on gold prospecting in Ecuador. Any information or tips you may provide on this subject would be most appreciated. I have been receiving your newsletter and I had received your free 7 part alluvial gold series. I find the information fascinating and very useful. So far, all of my gold prospecting has been limited to the North Carolina gold belt where I found about ½ ounce of gold doing some high-banking. Anyhow, once again, please send me or steer me to any information which would help me plan my trip. Thank you very much for your time and consideration. My very best regards to you Zenon Kobiela

Hi Zenon, Thanks for your pleasant email. Yes, my materials are the most complete that I have seen anywhere about gold prospecting in Ecuador. My report, Gold Secrets of Ecuador Revealed and also The Secret will certainly show you where the gold is and what to look for in ancient channel systems. Besides that, it takes a lot of hard work and practice to successfully recover gold commercially. I do like your strategy. Best Wishes, Stan

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Subject: GOLD

Hi! Stan. It's me again Jeff Elliott from Virginia. I was recently at my favorite mine where the 8 lb. nugget and many others of various sizes were found. With my experience in dowsing for gold I got a positive hit in the little rivulet that I mentioned to you about. It is about 20 ft. in length and I've found gold in the first 8 in. of gravel then reached the clay layer which also contains gold to the depth of about 2ft. I still am burying the shovel in this clay layer. I wonder how deep it is to the bedrock for the gold is suppose to be better in the 1 ft. of material above it gathering from what I've heard ? I am also about 60 yards or less from where there is obvious reddish looking bedrock that gradually slopes downhill south of the mine . How did the old timers miss this clay layer in this small stream which originates from 2 springs and is the gold I'm finding due to the previous years of new erosion ? P.S. I know gold is where you find it but I still very much appreciate an experts opinion on the matter if you could oblige me. I need that extra motivation so to speak. Bye for now. A prospecting friend always. Jeff Elliot

Hi Jeff, The old-timers did miss certain sweet spots from time to time. The only way to really know what is down below the clay is to dig or drill. The clay may have acted as a false bedrock and there may not be any gold below. Or, you may find an incredible bonanza down below. I would keep digging if I were you. Good Luck, Stan


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Subject: Peruvians and Tibetans

Stan, Just wanted to comment on something and get your opinions. I was watching a movie called "Seven Years in Tibet" last week, and I got to thinking just how much the Tibetan people looked like the Peruvian people. Now I know that the Native Americans came across the land bridge (or did they all?!?), but most of them have their own look. The Peruvians and the Tibetans look like brothers and sisters to each other, if you understand what I am saying. This could only mean that Tibetans traveled directly to Peru, and not across the land bridge and finally to Peru after so many generations. Otherwise, the genetic similarities would have been washed out through other tribal influence. Also, their clothes, hats, homes, look exactly alike. I know that someone else has probably thought of this
as well, but I have never read anything about it. Have a great day and be careful out there!! Thanks Arthur Bishop, Alabama Prospector and THer

Hi Arthur, Thanks for your insightful email and observations. If you have read any of my original free archived newsletters, you can see that I am working on this connection behind the scenes right now. Juan Moricz studied this subject in great depth. In the future I plan to present conclusive, decisive evidence that the Tibeteans are direct descendants of ancient South Americans. So the fast answer to your question is that there is a direct connection and it had nothing to do with the widely believed land bridge. The vast majority of ancient migrations all took place by sea. Stay Tuned, Stan

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Subject: treasure hunter career question

Hi Stan, My name is Alex. I always had interest with exploration and treasure hunting. After finishing my university degree in June of last year in Los Angeles and after several temporary part-time jobs I traveled to Ecuador as a volunteer/intern from September to December of last year. I returned three months ago, but my desire to develop my career as a treasure hunter and explorer only grew stronger after this trip. Now I returned back to the world of corporate competition and metropolis oppression. And now also comes the question of starting my career which is very difficult for me. On one hand it is the necessity to have stable income which one has usually by having 9 to 5 job, but on the other hand the dreams and plans for a career as a treasure hunter make me very restless. On the positive side at the moment I do not have any family commitments or financial obligations. What is your suggestions and advice specific for my situation as well as for other people who are in the same situation? Thank you, Alex Arktos

Hi Alex, Welcome to the club. My advise to you is to buy my "Creating Wealth Through Adventure System: http://www.stangrist.com/CreatingWealthSystem.htm. Search the net for other people doing similar things to see how they do it. Find a mentor. Read lots of books about explorers and adventurers. There are a million ways to make a living in this lifestyle. You are obviously a good writer. That represents dozens of ways to make money right there. Above all else, you must pursue your passion in life, no matter what the cost. Please read my newsletter from last month where I address your exact issue in response to an email from Poland. My answers apply to everyone. Keep me posted on your progress...Stan


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Subject: Venezuela prospecting
Hello Mr. Grist. I recently purchased your "Secret Diamond Sites of Venezuela REVEALED", package. I intend to travel there in the upcoming dry season and seek diamonds. Can you tell me if there are any permits required, and if so, who do I contact to acquire them? Also, do you have any last minute tips for me? Thank you! Sincerely, Marty Parker

Hi Marty, Good luck on your upcoming trip. I don't think that any permits are required to prospect for diamonds in Venezuela. However, you should check with someone who knows more than I about this if you are concerned. You should also try to be careful not to really dig much if you are obviously on someone else's concession.

That said, it is a very huge and empty space. You can walk for months without seeing another human. If it were me, I wouldn't even worry about permits and concessions. Once you find a good spot, you could be set for life.

You should be a competent remote area type of person. You should be prepared for having no support from the outside world. If you are this type of person, you will love it there!
Good Luck, Stan
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Subject: Gold in Ecuador
Hi Stan, I'm happy to be # 800 and your newest yahoo news group member! My name is Rick and I will be spending the rest of winter and spring studying all of the information that you have in your group and your website. I have been considering to move to South America for about a year. I will be making a trip to Ecuador sometime this year to check things out and see if this is really what I want to do.

Is there any chance that you might put me in touch with similarly minded people who either live in Ecuador or want to visit. I am fairly new to Yahoo groups and instant messaging and I would really like to instant message with folks who have an interest in gold and Ecuador not necessarily in that order. Thanks Stan your the Man !!! Richard Prostler

Hi Rick, Nice to hear from you. We will post your email on the web site so that others may be able to get in touch with you. You can do the same as well. That is why we like to include peoples' email addresses. Let me know a few weeks before you expect to arrive in Ecuador so me can meet up. Regards,Stan

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Subject: Hit Home!!! Ecuador mysteries
Hello Stan. I came across your website by accident and I have been enjoying the different articles your site has to offer. I am and Ecuadorian born individual whom has been living in USA twenty some years now. I read your article about your trek to the "Ilalo" mountain since some of my family used to own half of that mountain. After many years and many generations, the land was sold and also was given to some of the local Indian families who worked and lived on the Ilalo laderas. Currently, the Hacienda occupies the lower north portion of the mountain. I have been interested about themes such as Pyramids, Los Tayos, Espiritismo, Leyendas Antiguas Ecuatorianas and similar knowledge since I was a kid. I do agree with you that Ecuador has incredible riches that have been untouched yet. I could only wish being able to have the time and funding to explore so many interesting possibilities that I know are in Ecuador just waiting to be discovered. The history about the lost Inca gold has been one of fascination to me since I was a child, I do envy and admire your tenacity in pursuing what I can only dream about. I'd love to have some cervezas with you next time I am down there visiting my family. Regards. Juan Maldonado, (CBC)" Juan.Maldonado@khpc.com

Hi Juan, I can't wait to sit down and have a cold Pilsner with you! Best Regards, Stan

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Subject: GOLD in Virginia
Hi! Stan it's Jeff from Va. It's such a great time for doing research now for it is too cold out to prospect. That mountain stream is just frigid cold for the hands for panning. My research and history shows that nuggets of 1 ounce and under by the masses were found at this one goldmine, that were located in the bed of a rivulet. Please define the terminology of the bed of a rivulet for me, cuz I want to do some serious metal detecting at this mine site. Oh yeah ,and there are oodles of tailing piles of which to metal detect. I can't wait to get back to this site ,for I will be like a kid in a candy store so to speak. P.S. The old timers did alot of rock crushing and found alot of gold here and history has it that a 9 pound nugget was found here as well. Could there still be some big gold at this site. A prospecting friend always. Jeff


Hi Jeff, It sounds like you are really on to something interesting. Your research is certainly the key. The bed of a rivulet must be the bedrock of a small stream. Just guessing. Yes, there could still be a lot of big gold there. Your metal detector could come in real handy as long as you can get your search coil close enough to the bedrock. Good Luck, Stan

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Subject: Free 7 Part Placer Gold Course and free report problems

I am trying to subscribe Stan's FREE 7 part Placer Gold Prospecting Report. I have not been able to use any free email account to send the request. I really want to read both the free report and 7 part course- I am living on disability so have to save my dollars for important stuff like ordering the Ancient Deposits Modern Wealth and the System. Please if at all possible I would appreciate your help in getting the free reports. I ordered the training course last year and it was lost in a computer crash and I really want to replace it. The materials were fantastic. William McLaren


Hi William, I have subscribed you to the free course which is sent by the auto mailer every two days. This is the only way it is sent out. If you don't receive it, please look in your bulk mail box. Many times people have a full inbox and the course is rejected, therefore you will have to make sure that your inbox is regularly cleared and not full to receive it. Also make sure that you don't have it blocked by a spam filter. The last part of the course ( #7) contains the download link for the free report, so please watch for it. Since you purchased the System and have lost it I am happy to give you the download link for the files. We are pleased to know that you found it very useful and value your comments and business. All the best to you for a wonderful New Year, Susan Millar, webmaster


Hello Susan Millar, I just wanted to thank you for replacing the lost course (I value it very much) and also with your help with the free report etc. Having the ability to make a couple other purchases on the site just made this year fantastic. Please pass to Stan G. I think his products are fantastic and having been a SYSADMIN in the corp. world know how good you are!! and you can also pass that along. So many Admins would not have taken the time to help and make it sound personal like you did thank you. William McLaren

Hi William, Thanks so much for your kind comments, it's wonderful to get such positive feedback. Thank you also for purchasing the Ancients Deposits Modern Wealth package, we hope that you find it interesting and very useful. If you ever need any further assistance, please let me know and I'll be happy to help you. We value your business greatly and want to make sure that you are satisfied. Cheers, Susan Millar

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Subject: Lost Cities and caves
Stan, I just stumbled onto your site a couple of days ago, and am I glad I did. I bought your Treasure Hunting Course and just finished reading it. Great work. Thanks! I have always been interested in Lost Cities and Subterranean civilizations. This interested started years ago after reading "The Hollow Earth". I would like to start doing research in possible sites in the good, old USA, particularly around my area (Louisiana). I am not as interested in treasure finding (though that would be nice) as I am interested in finding clues to our past. I believe there is an incredible amount of knowledge that has been lost to the ages.

Could you provide me with a couple of ideas on where to start my search? I am new to this field, so instead of trying to reinvent the wheel, I figured I would ask someone of your obvious intelligence (how is that for kissing up)? Seriously, some direction would be greatly appreciated. Cordially, Alfredo J. Martinez New Orleans, LA

Hi Alfredo, Thanks for writing. I agree with you about much important ancient history being lost. There are small shreds of evidence that need to be pieced together by dilligent investigators. I have given you a few internet links below which may help to stimulate several possible areas of interest for you. Most important of all!...learn how to research and investigate. I wish you the best of luck as you progress with your investigations.
The world is a fascinating and mysterious place, Stan

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/tunnels2.html
http://www.olivercowdery.com/texts/1818symm.htm
http://www.louisianafolklifefest.org/Articles/2000f4.htm
http://www.archaeolink.com/louisiana_archaeology.htm
http://www.enlou.com/markers/ancientanilco.htm
http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/ancientamerica.htm
http://www.crystalinks.com/rennes.html

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Subject: Treasure in Peru

Hello Stan, I seem to have found a treasure already. My wife is from Peru (Piura, in the North) and her brother lives in Guayaquil Ecuador. I have subscribed to your site and I would like to get some suggestions. My family and I will be traveling to Peru this January (2005). I intended to take my metal detector and gold with me. Your information on alluvial gold is of interest to me. What guides/courses do you have or recommend that would better prepare me for treasure hunting in Peru. My wife thinks I'm nuts but I have always had a good hunch about this area. I have done some treasure hunting here in the United States and have had some luck in finding coins and other items. I do not want to pass this opportunity by, but need help. My interest was peeked during a trip to Peru in 2000 when we visited Cajamarca. Just east of the city I say what looked like a mining operation along a river that ran nearby. My father-in-law said he thought that it was a gold mine, but not sure. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
David Smith

Hi David, Thanks for writing. Yes, you should definitely do some treasure hunting and gold prospecting while you are in Peru. My "Ancient Deposits, Modern Wealth" e-package could be extremely helpful for you in the pursuit of alluvial gold. My "Creating Wealth Through Adventure System" has much more information about making money as a treasure hunter. Please let me know what you find. Remember that research is the huge key to success, so prepare well before your visit. Best of Luck, Stan


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Subject: finding gold
What about the east coast regions? I live in NC right now. It would be nice to be able to find gold here on the east coast, hopefully in quantities that will be worth while. I do not expect to get rich quick, although that would be nice, I do have that ever present desire that the effort will be worth my time to do it. This is one of the reasons many are not out already looking for gold because they feel it is not worth their time, and that some company already has the rights to any site that has gold to be mined. Obviously this is not true. As you have ably pointed out, the site cleaned out last year may very well be full again this year. Is this a correct summation? I guess what I want is some reassurance that I still have as good a chance as any one to find enough that just maybe I can tell my 9-5 employer good bye and not worry about an income ever again. Keel Kerry


Kerry, It is possible to find gold in paying quantities in the eastern USA. Northern Georgia is one of my favorite places and North Carolina holds many possibilities as well. However, serious gold prospecting requires huge dedication and persistence. I have met very few people in my life with the necessary dedication to really make it work. While you can make a very comfortable living in the gold business and even get rich, only you can determine if you will really do it or not. As in any worthwhile endeavor in life, it takes all your guts to finally get the glory...Stan

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Subject: stories from Ecuador etc

Stan, Hope its all right if I pepper you with questions?

1) When did Howard die? What was the treasure he was chasing in Turkey? What other treasures did he find, after the book was published?

Answer: Howard died sometime in the late 70s in a commercial plane crash in Istanbul. Yes, the treasure was located somewhere in Turkey, but I don't know what it was. I don't know what other treasures he found after the book was published.

2) Why didn't he ever dig up that 3rd Treasure chest on Roatan?

Answer: Robin told me that he didn't want to arouse the suspicion of his neighbors once he began his real estate development project nearby. However, I don't think we'll ever know the real reason. Or, maybe he did dig it up and kept it a secret.

3) Did you find that gold creek up in the Andes that he panned? Or try finding those stone pillars he was told about?

Answer: I have found the river, but quite a bit downstream from where Howard recovered his gold. I have made one attempt to reach Howard's spot, but encountered a high altitude rain forest which I could not pass through. I have now identified a different route which should work just fine. We are planning to film the expedition and create a documentary about it. We
hope to go in this coming year. The stone pillars seem difficult to find, but I will keep my eyes and ears open.

4) If you had 4 weeks to treasure hunt, would you go to: Venezuela for diamonds, gold in Ecuador, or gold in Honduras? Ie which is most profitable in 4 weeks.

Answer: The answer entirely depends on you, your remote prospecting experience level and area of most interest. I would consider all 3 projects to be potentially the same in profitability. I enjoy all three areas equally.

5) Did you ever get a good look at the Paulaya River? It must be developed by now I would imagine, without a lot of gold left? Do you think Howard may have embroidered the story as to how much gold he walked away with?

Answer: We nearly drowned in the Paulaya when we were struck with an unexpected monsoon rain while returning to the Caribbean in an overloaded dugout canoe. I prospected the area where Howard worked and discovered the source of his gold, an ancient river channel. It appears fairly rich. I don't think that the area has been developed yet as it is VERY remote. Howard's dredging assistant told me that Howard carried away less gold than he said in
the book. However, I would never tell my dredging assistant how much gold I recovered. Who knows?

6) What's the best treasure you ever found?

Answer: One of the sites of the 7 Lost Cities of El Dorado, the Abanico River. There is hardrock gold, alluvial gold and many smaller caches of gold that were hidden before the 7 cities were destroyed by the native uprising in 1599. We'll be shooting a documentary of this project early in 2005 where you will see a number of treasures uncovered live, in real time.

7) What happened to Hampton Court? Their stock is suspended and the president has been asked to resign by the Stock Exchange. Perhaps things aren't going well?

Answer: Hampton Court was forced to sell the project to a private mining company due
to gross mismanagement. If the shareholders ever find out what I know about what went on there, they will likely hang all of the previous directors of the company.

Trying to save for a trip maybe this winter, I don't know. Sincerely Al Velsen

Good luck Al and have fun. If you come to Ecuador, look me up...Stan


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Subject: Battea help
Hi Stan, I am needing some help finding a source for some handmade Sieves and Batteas. I got some from a guy in Ciudad Bolivar but that was back in 97. Can you help me locate some?
Louis -Dallas Texas


Hi Louis, We will post your request on our web site "Questions and Comments". If any of our readers can help you, they can send you an email. All the best, Stan

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Subject: Panama info question
Hi Stan, I enjoyed reading viewing your web site. I hope you can answer my question. I'm an American who just purchased a home in the Panama highlands area in a town called Volcan it's in the Chiriqui province. I had heard some stories about a lost city of gold in the cloud forest area which is close by (stories of dwarf 3 foot high white skin Indians that are cave dwellers). I have been trying to get some good research info on this and Panama in general however I have not found much. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance Randy Johnson

Hi Randy, After looking through my most likely resources, I wasn't able to find anything specific about your lost city. It certainly sounds interesting. You might try checking out this site for some interesting info:

http://www.travelpod.com/cgi-bin/view_printer.pl?tweb_UID=bonkers&tweb_tripID=latin-nz&tweb_guest_password=

I hope you have a fast internet connection as this is a huge page with many photos.
Best of luck in Panama! Stan

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Hi Alfredo, Thanks for writing. I agree with you about much important ancient history being lost. There are small shreds of evidence that need to be pieced together by dilligent investigators. I have given you a few internet links below which may help to stimulate several possible areas of interest for you. Most important of all!...learn how to research and investigate. I wish you the best of luck as you progress with your investigations.
The world is a fascinating and mysterious place, Stan

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/tunnels2.html
http://www.olivercowdery.com/texts/1818symm.htm
http://www.louisianafolklifefest.org/Articles/2000f4.htm
http://www.archaeolink.com/louisiana_archaeology.htm
http://www.enlou.com/markers/ancientanilco.htm
http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/ancientamerica.htm
http://www.crystalinks.com/rennes.html
























Thursday, May 19, 2011

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Travelers find new friends, the beauty of nature, and the excitement of gold in northern California.



The road stretched endlessly before us. Familiar hills of Arkansas and Oklahoma now lay far behind. The miles slipped steadily by as we drove hour after hour across the Texas plain, but we knew we were only getting started. We were on a prospecting and treasure hunting expedition that would require traveling almost 5,000 miles, and spending many nights in camp before we would again see the comforts of home. Still, I couldn’t help thinking how much easier it was for us than for those first 49’ers who traveled this same route by wagon and horseback in their quest for gold.

Our purpose for this trip was really three-fold. My treasure hunting buddy, Jay Gill, and I had planned for months to make a gold prospecting trip to northern California. I also wanted to visit with my father while we were there. He is now in his 80’s, but acts like he thinks he’s still a teenager.

The third purpose, which came up after our trip was already planned, concerned my son, Monty. He had won an academic scholarship from a laboratory in Richland, Washington. He would be paid for working in the lab and earn a semester of college credit at the same time. The deal was just too good for him to pass up. And I promised his mother that I would see him reach Richland safely. This would mean driving a few hundred more miles than originally planned, but what the heck, we were on vacation anyway.

I have been a treasure hunter for almost 40 years and have been very active in just about every phase of the hobby/profession. But when it comes to prospecting for gold, I consider myself strictly a greenhorn. The only actual prospecting experience I have had previously took place over 30 years ago when I spent a few months in the Sierra near Twain Harte, California. Fortunately my partner, Jay Gill, was a seasoned old veteran. He has prospected in many different places over the years, including the Colorado Rockies, and even in the jungles of Ecuador. I was depending on him to teach me the ropes and get us off to a good start.

We reached Gallup, New Mexico long after my usual bedtime and stopped to grab a few hours sleep. As a spectacular desert sunrise silhouetted craggy hills in the East, we headed north on Highway 666. This route took us through the eerie lunar terrain where Shiprock and skeletal remains of other long dead volcanos dominate the landscape. Jay and I had traveled this way on another treasure hunting trip back in the spring. But, Monty had never seen anything like it and was really impressed with the spectacular scenery.

We soon passed through the south-west corner of Colorado and on through the beautiful canyon country of Utah. By the time we had grown too sleepy to drive any farther we were in the Snake River country of Idaho, where we stopped for the night. We crossed the Snake River Plain early the next orning, along the old Emigrant Road used so many years ago by those early pioneers headed for Oregon.

Again my mind drifted back, as I tried to visualize what it would be like to traverse this harsh terrain day after day on foot or in a wagon. This was only our third day on the road, and already I was becoming weary. But how could I really understand the feelings or taste the hardships of those hardy souls who had to endure months of hot, dusty travel, while we crossed the same distances in mere days of air conditioned comfort.

We reached Richland, Washington in the afternoon and got Monty moved into his new apartment. Jay and I spent the night with him and got some much needed rest. With a bit of sadness I said my goodbyes to Monty early the next morning, knowing it would be several months before I would see him again. But he was in good spirits and looking forward to a new experience.

As Jay and I drove south across Oregon in view of beautiful snow-capped mountains, the spirit of adventure gradually returned to me also. We reached Tulelake, California, where my father lives, that afternoon. After visiting a while, Jay and I decided to see what the coinshooting was like here in northern California. The Silver Sabre II I was using, and the Tesoro Toltec 100 Jay had brought, performed quite well. By dark we had dug a little silver and a large number of modern coins. But it was gold that we had traveled thousands of miles to find, and we were anxious to reach the Klamath River and do some serious prospecting.

Early Sunday morning Jay and I headed west on Highway 161 which runs along the state line just inside the northern border of California. As we drove through a waterfowl refuge on Lower Klamath Lake we noticed a road sign which stated “SLOW DUCK CROSSING.” This was the first time I had ever seen a “duck crossing” sign, but it was no joke. We had to slow down and even stop at times as thousands of ducks crossed the road, some flying and some walking. It was a sight to thrill anyone who loves to view wildlife in their natural habitat.

We checked our old road atlas and considered taking a shortcut over the mountain on a Forest Service road, even though it wasn’t shown on the new highway map we had. We stopped at a ranger station to check on the situation before turning off the highway, but the station was closed. We decided to take the short-cut anyway since it would save us about 50 miles of driving, and after all, Jay and I were no strangers to back country roads.

Most of this road was dirt or gravel, and after reaching the top of the mountain side roads branched off in all directions. Few of the intersections were marked and it was difficult to tell which way we should go. At one junction we chose the wrong fork of the road and soon found ourselves at a dead end near the bottom of a canyon. It was bow hunting season in the area and we met a deer hunter who gave us directions on how to get down the mountain to the semi-ghost town of Montague. We made it this time without getting lost again.

Even though we had been side-tracked for a time, the drive over the mountain was one of the most interesting parts of the trip. Wildlife was more plentiful here than on any other stretch of road we had traveled. Chipmunks and various species of birds were everywhere. We saw numerous black-tail deer and took some good pictures of them. The scenic views were also spectacular, with snow-capped Mt. Shasta rising in the background.

We arrived at Happy Camp in mid-afternoon and stopped at the New 49’ers headquarters to get information on where to camp and pan for gold. The first person we met was Dave McCracken. Dave was in the process of giving a seminar on placer gold recovery methods. Not knowing what was going on, Jay and I had barged inside right in the middle of his seminar, as if we owned the place. Dave was very gracious about the whole thing, and after a brief conversation and introductions all around, we sat in on the rest of the seminar.

After the seminar (which proved to be very informative), we talked a while longer and Dave told us we could spend the week as his guests and work New 49er Club claims. Bill Stumpf, the organization tour guide, directed us to a campsite for the night on Elk Creek Road just south of Happy Camp. We quickly set up camp and started panning on the nearby gravel bar. I recovered several flakes of gold from the first pan full of material, and this continued to be the case with every pan the entire week we were on the Klamath.

The next day Bill led us several miles upriver and showed us where we could camp and pan for gold. He even loaned us his MACK-VACK to use while we were there! The MACK-VACK is a vacuum type tool for sucking dirt and gold out of cracks and crevices and into a five-gallon bucket. It proved to be very effective and we used it to good advantage in several locations. After showing us around and pointing out a few spots he thought should be productive, Bill wished us luck and went on his way.

We set up camp near two other miners who were working with high banking units. One of the miners was named Don who said he lived in Klamath Falls, Oregon. He worked for the railroad and mined gold during his vacations and days off. Don was a very outgoing person who tried to be friendly and helpful from the very first meeting. Don also hunts nuggets with a detector and had some nice specimens to prove it. The other miner was Jerry Snell from Eugene, Oregon, and he works for a timber company. Jerry is more reserved and waits until he has time to evaluate a person before committing himself. But after he gets to know someone and finds out that they are O.K. he will help them any way he can. Jerry showed me a nice collection of gold he had recovered from his high banking operation on the Klamath.

A large black bear visited our camp every night, but he didn’t disturb anything. He would just leave his spoor and then walk on up the river. He was probably checking out every miner’s camp along the way to see what they were up to. After all, this was HIS territory and we were just trespassers. If I had met the old boy on the trail there wouldn’t have been any question about who had the right of way. Don and Jerry said they had seen him walking along the river about 50 yards from camp the evening before we arrived. He remained out of sight the few days we were there. But just knowing he was around added a lot of atmosphere and a sense of wildness to the country.

Our side of the river had been heavily worked, both by the early miners and in recent times. Jay and I looked the situation over and decided that with the limited equipment we had, our best bet would be to clean out overlooked crevices and pockets between the large boulders along the river. We had brought along a sluice box, but the river was so deep and swift along this stretch that we didn’t find a suitable place to set it up until the last afternoon we were there. By that time it was too late to pack our equipment the half-mile upriver to that location. So, we panned all the material by hand and recovered what gold we could that way.

Gold panning was something I wasn’t very proficient at and I needed a lot of practice. After a couple of days of steady work I became a lot better at it. But I was never able to work a pan of material as quickly as Jay could. As I watched the sand and gravel swirling around in my gold pan I tried repeatedly to let my mind drift back in time and try to recapture the atmosphere of those early miners who first worked this river. Although the scenery was still wild and beautiful, and my muscles ached from the unaccustomed effort, the feeling I sought continued to elude me. Perhaps the sound of gasoline engines on the high bankers and the occasional airplane overhead held me too close to the present.

After we had been panning a couple of days, Bill Stumpf and Gordon Zahara came by to see how we were doing. Gordon has been very successful nugget shooting with a detector in some of the old hydraulic mining areas nearby. The New 49ers contracts with Gordon to help members and guests become more proficient at nugget hunting and to guide expeditions into the field several days each week. I expressed an interest in some nugget shooting with the Tesoro Silver Sabre II I had brought along on the trip. I knew the Silver Sabre II wasn’t specifically designed for finding gold nuggets, but I thought it would be sensitive enough to do an adequate job. Gordon said he would be glad to take us on a nugget shoot, and we made plans to go the next day.

As luck would have it, it was showering heavily the morning of our planned hunt. We met Gordon at the New 49’ers headquarters and discussed the situation over coffee. After watching the rain for a while we decided to cover our detectors with plastic bags and try it anyway. The clouds began to break up before noon and it turned into a nice day. Another man and his two teen-age sons accompanied us on the hunt, but they only stayed until about noon.

We drove to a spot near the little mining town of Clear Creek, then Gordon led us up the mountainside along a steep trail about a quarter mile to an old hydraulic mining site. The biggest problem we encountered detecting the area was the highly mineralized ground in certain areas and the many hot rocks. The man and the two teen-age boys were not familiar with the new “nugget shooting” detectors they had recently bought and soon became very frustrated trying to deal with the numerous hot rocks and ground mineralization. I think that is the main reason they gave up the search so early. I could hardly keep from laughing when I overheard the man tell Gordon, “We’re having a problem chasing elusive signals.”

Gordon is a veritable storehouse of knowledge concerning the gold mining potential of the area and the use of detectors in its recovery. He was more than willing to share that information with anyone who was interested and wanted to hunt. Of course he has his own special places he isn’t ready to take anyone else to, yet. One of the methods we used in our search was to rake down the steep sides of a shale bank and go over it with our detectors. Gordon was the only one who found a nugget that day, a small one about the size of a rice grain.

We tested the Silver Sabre II on this small nugget and it detected it easily. I also had no difficulty detecting small hot rocks and galena crystals, which seemed to have about the same conductivity as a gold nugget. I believe I would have found a nugget with the Silver Sabre II if I had just been fortunate enough to have gotten over one. There is an old mine shaft near the area we were detecting and a trash dump from that time period. Jay and I hunted a while in that area and found several interesting old relics from the early mining days.

Another impressive feature of the Klamath River country is the many different kinds of rocks and minerals found there. We often found small garnets along with the flakes of gold and black sand at the bottom of our pans. We also picked up a couple of nice pieces of jade and several other interesting rock samples. I believe this would be a prime area to do some rock hounding if a person could get this mind off gold mining long enough.

The days passed quickly and before we realized it the time had come when we needed to pack up and start home. Jay is a fireman and had to report back to work the following week. We returned the borrowed MACK-VACK to Bill Stumpf and said our farewells. We were very grateful for the generous hospitality everyone had shown us. I wished to show my appreciation by giving Bill and Marcie and Gordon’s wife a few Indian spear points from Oklahoma and Texas. Bill wasn’t to be outdone, however, and before we left he handed me a beautiful gold nugget as a souvenir. By Saturday afternoon we were driving across the lonely Nevada deserts on our way home.

The road stretched endlessly before us. Although we had traveled thousands of miles within the last few days, none seemed as desolate as this barren desert. I guess the last couple of weeks of strenuous effort and long days on the road had taken its toll. I had been trying the entire trip to go back in time and experience the feelings of those early pioneers and miners. Now, crossing the empty deserts of Nevada, almost totally exhausted, I was at least partially successful. It didn’t matter that we were traveling at 65 miles an hour. The horizons were so distant there was no perception of getting anywhere. We had somehow become caught in a realm where time was meaningless and the vastness of the land too great to comprehend. The chances of us ever reaching our homes began to seem hopeless.

Yes, I had finally recaptured the feeling some of those early travelers must have experienced, but it wasn’t exactly what I had expected. In an effort to come back to reality, I turned to Jay and said, “It may not seem like it now, as tired as we are, but someday we’ll look back at all this and think of it as a big adventure.” Jay sat in silence for several moments as if contemplating the events of the past few days. “It has been quite an adventure”, he answered softly.

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Travelers find new friends, the beauty of nature, and the excitement of gold in northern California.



The road stretched endlessly before us. Familiar hills of Arkansas and Oklahoma now lay far behind. The miles slipped steadily by as we drove hour after hour across the Texas plain, but we knew we were only getting started. We were on a prospecting and treasure hunting expedition that would require traveling almost 5,000 miles, and spending many nights in camp before we would again see the comforts of home. Still, I couldn’t help thinking how much easier it was for us than for those first 49’ers who traveled this same route by wagon and horseback in their quest for gold.

Our purpose for this trip was really three-fold. My treasure hunting buddy, Jay Gill, and I had planned for months to make a gold prospecting trip to northern California. I also wanted to visit with my father while we were there. He is now in his 80’s, but acts like he thinks he’s still a teenager.

The third purpose, which came up after our trip was already planned, concerned my son, Monty. He had won an academic scholarship from a laboratory in Richland, Washington. He would be paid for working in the lab and earn a semester of college credit at the same time. The deal was just too good for him to pass up. And I promised his mother that I would see him reach Richland safely. This would mean driving a few hundred more miles than originally planned, but what the heck, we were on vacation anyway.

I have been a treasure hunter for almost 40 years and have been very active in just about every phase of the hobby/profession. But when it comes to prospecting for gold, I consider myself strictly a greenhorn. The only actual prospecting experience I have had previously took place over 30 years ago when I spent a few months in the Sierra near Twain Harte, California. Fortunately my partner, Jay Gill, was a seasoned old veteran. He has prospected in many different places over the years, including the Colorado Rockies, and even in the jungles of Ecuador. I was depending on him to teach me the ropes and get us off to a good start.

We reached Gallup, New Mexico long after my usual bedtime and stopped to grab a few hours sleep. As a spectacular desert sunrise silhouetted craggy hills in the East, we headed north on Highway 666. This route took us through the eerie lunar terrain where Shiprock and skeletal remains of other long dead volcanos dominate the landscape. Jay and I had traveled this way on another treasure hunting trip back in the spring. But, Monty had never seen anything like it and was really impressed with the spectacular scenery.

We soon passed through the south-west corner of Colorado and on through the beautiful canyon country of Utah. By the time we had grown too sleepy to drive any farther we were in the Snake River country of Idaho, where we stopped for the night. We crossed the Snake River Plain early the next orning, along the old Emigrant Road used so many years ago by those early pioneers headed for Oregon.

Again my mind drifted back, as I tried to visualize what it would be like to traverse this harsh terrain day after day on foot or in a wagon. This was only our third day on the road, and already I was becoming weary. But how could I really understand the feelings or taste the hardships of those hardy souls who had to endure months of hot, dusty travel, while we crossed the same distances in mere days of air conditioned comfort.

We reached Richland, Washington in the afternoon and got Monty moved into his new apartment. Jay and I spent the night with him and got some much needed rest. With a bit of sadness I said my goodbyes to Monty early the next morning, knowing it would be several months before I would see him again. But he was in good spirits and looking forward to a new experience.

As Jay and I drove south across Oregon in view of beautiful snow-capped mountains, the spirit of adventure gradually returned to me also. We reached Tulelake, California, where my father lives, that afternoon. After visiting a while, Jay and I decided to see what the coinshooting was like here in northern California. The Silver Sabre II I was using, and the Tesoro Toltec 100 Jay had brought, performed quite well. By dark we had dug a little silver and a large number of modern coins. But it was gold that we had traveled thousands of miles to find, and we were anxious to reach the Klamath River and do some serious prospecting.

Early Sunday morning Jay and I headed west on Highway 161 which runs along the state line just inside the northern border of California. As we drove through a waterfowl refuge on Lower Klamath Lake we noticed a road sign which stated “SLOW DUCK CROSSING.” This was the first time I had ever seen a “duck crossing” sign, but it was no joke. We had to slow down and even stop at times as thousands of ducks crossed the road, some flying and some walking. It was a sight to thrill anyone who loves to view wildlife in their natural habitat.

We checked our old road atlas and considered taking a shortcut over the mountain on a Forest Service road, even though it wasn’t shown on the new highway map we had. We stopped at a ranger station to check on the situation before turning off the highway, but the station was closed. We decided to take the short-cut anyway since it would save us about 50 miles of driving, and after all, Jay and I were no strangers to back country roads.

Most of this road was dirt or gravel, and after reaching the top of the mountain side roads branched off in all directions. Few of the intersections were marked and it was difficult to tell which way we should go. At one junction we chose the wrong fork of the road and soon found ourselves at a dead end near the bottom of a canyon. It was bow hunting season in the area and we met a deer hunter who gave us directions on how to get down the mountain to the semi-ghost town of Montague. We made it this time without getting lost again.

Even though we had been side-tracked for a time, the drive over the mountain was one of the most interesting parts of the trip. Wildlife was more plentiful here than on any other stretch of road we had traveled. Chipmunks and various species of birds were everywhere. We saw numerous black-tail deer and took some good pictures of them. The scenic views were also spectacular, with snow-capped Mt. Shasta rising in the background.

We arrived at Happy Camp in mid-afternoon and stopped at the New 49’ers headquarters to get information on where to camp and pan for gold. The first person we met was Dave McCracken. Dave was in the process of giving a seminar on placer gold recovery methods. Not knowing what was going on, Jay and I had barged inside right in the middle of his seminar, as if we owned the place. Dave was very gracious about the whole thing, and after a brief conversation and introductions all around, we sat in on the rest of the seminar.

After the seminar (which proved to be very informative), we talked a while longer and Dave told us we could spend the week as his guests and work New 49er Club claims. Bill Stumpf, the organization tour guide, directed us to a campsite for the night on Elk Creek Road just south of Happy Camp. We quickly set up camp and started panning on the nearby gravel bar. I recovered several flakes of gold from the first pan full of material, and this continued to be the case with every pan the entire week we were on the Klamath.

The next day Bill led us several miles upriver and showed us where we could camp and pan for gold. He even loaned us his MACK-VACK to use while we were there! The MACK-VACK is a vacuum type tool for sucking dirt and gold out of cracks and crevices and into a five-gallon bucket. It proved to be very effective and we used it to good advantage in several locations. After showing us around and pointing out a few spots he thought should be productive, Bill wished us luck and went on his way.

We set up camp near two other miners who were working with high banking units. One of the miners was named Don who said he lived in Klamath Falls, Oregon. He worked for the railroad and mined gold during his vacations and days off. Don was a very outgoing person who tried to be friendly and helpful from the very first meeting. Don also hunts nuggets with a detector and had some nice specimens to prove it. The other miner was Jerry Snell from Eugene, Oregon, and he works for a timber company. Jerry is more reserved and waits until he has time to evaluate a person before committing himself. But after he gets to know someone and finds out that they are O.K. he will help them any way he can. Jerry showed me a nice collection of gold he had recovered from his high banking operation on the Klamath.

A large black bear visited our camp every night, but he didn’t disturb anything. He would just leave his spoor and then walk on up the river. He was probably checking out every miner’s camp along the way to see what they were up to. After all, this was HIS territory and we were just trespassers. If I had met the old boy on the trail there wouldn’t have been any question about who had the right of way. Don and Jerry said they had seen him walking along the river about 50 yards from camp the evening before we arrived. He remained out of sight the few days we were there. But just knowing he was around added a lot of atmosphere and a sense of wildness to the country.

Our side of the river had been heavily worked, both by the early miners and in recent times. Jay and I looked the situation over and decided that with the limited equipment we had, our best bet would be to clean out overlooked crevices and pockets between the large boulders along the river. We had brought along a sluice box, but the river was so deep and swift along this stretch that we didn’t find a suitable place to set it up until the last afternoon we were there. By that time it was too late to pack our equipment the half-mile upriver to that location. So, we panned all the material by hand and recovered what gold we could that way.

Gold panning was something I wasn’t very proficient at and I needed a lot of practice. After a couple of days of steady work I became a lot better at it. But I was never able to work a pan of material as quickly as Jay could. As I watched the sand and gravel swirling around in my gold pan I tried repeatedly to let my mind drift back in time and try to recapture the atmosphere of those early miners who first worked this river. Although the scenery was still wild and beautiful, and my muscles ached from the unaccustomed effort, the feeling I sought continued to elude me. Perhaps the sound of gasoline engines on the high bankers and the occasional airplane overhead held me too close to the present.

After we had been panning a couple of days, Bill Stumpf and Gordon Zahara came by to see how we were doing. Gordon has been very successful nugget shooting with a detector in some of the old hydraulic mining areas nearby. The New 49ers contracts with Gordon to help members and guests become more proficient at nugget hunting and to guide expeditions into the field several days each week. I expressed an interest in some nugget shooting with the Tesoro Silver Sabre II I had brought along on the trip. I knew the Silver Sabre II wasn’t specifically designed for finding gold nuggets, but I thought it would be sensitive enough to do an adequate job. Gordon said he would be glad to take us on a nugget shoot, and we made plans to go the next day.

As luck would have it, it was showering heavily the morning of our planned hunt. We met Gordon at the New 49’ers headquarters and discussed the situation over coffee. After watching the rain for a while we decided to cover our detectors with plastic bags and try it anyway. The clouds began to break up before noon and it turned into a nice day. Another man and his two teen-age sons accompanied us on the hunt, but they only stayed until about noon.

We drove to a spot near the little mining town of Clear Creek, then Gordon led us up the mountainside along a steep trail about a quarter mile to an old hydraulic mining site. The biggest problem we encountered detecting the area was the highly mineralized ground in certain areas and the many hot rocks. The man and the two teen-age boys were not familiar with the new “nugget shooting” detectors they had recently bought and soon became very frustrated trying to deal with the numerous hot rocks and ground mineralization. I think that is the main reason they gave up the search so early. I could hardly keep from laughing when I overheard the man tell Gordon, “We’re having a problem chasing elusive signals.”

Gordon is a veritable storehouse of knowledge concerning the gold mining potential of the area and the use of detectors in its recovery. He was more than willing to share that information with anyone who was interested and wanted to hunt. Of course he has his own special places he isn’t ready to take anyone else to, yet. One of the methods we used in our search was to rake down the steep sides of a shale bank and go over it with our detectors. Gordon was the only one who found a nugget that day, a small one about the size of a rice grain.

We tested the Silver Sabre II on this small nugget and it detected it easily. I also had no difficulty detecting small hot rocks and galena crystals, which seemed to have about the same conductivity as a gold nugget. I believe I would have found a nugget with the Silver Sabre II if I had just been fortunate enough to have gotten over one. There is an old mine shaft near the area we were detecting and a trash dump from that time period. Jay and I hunted a while in that area and found several interesting old relics from the early mining days.

Another impressive feature of the Klamath River country is the many different kinds of rocks and minerals found there. We often found small garnets along with the flakes of gold and black sand at the bottom of our pans. We also picked up a couple of nice pieces of jade and several other interesting rock samples. I believe this would be a prime area to do some rock hounding if a person could get this mind off gold mining long enough.

The days passed quickly and before we realized it the time had come when we needed to pack up and start home. Jay is a fireman and had to report back to work the following week. We returned the borrowed MACK-VACK to Bill Stumpf and said our farewells. We were very grateful for the generous hospitality everyone had shown us. I wished to show my appreciation by giving Bill and Marcie and Gordon’s wife a few Indian spear points from Oklahoma and Texas. Bill wasn’t to be outdone, however, and before we left he handed me a beautiful gold nugget as a souvenir. By Saturday afternoon we were driving across the lonely Nevada deserts on our way home.

The road stretched endlessly before us. Although we had traveled thousands of miles within the last few days, none seemed as desolate as this barren desert. I guess the last couple of weeks of strenuous effort and long days on the road had taken its toll. I had been trying the entire trip to go back in time and experience the feelings of those early pioneers and miners. Now, crossing the empty deserts of Nevada, almost totally exhausted, I was at least partially successful. It didn’t matter that we were traveling at 65 miles an hour. The horizons were so distant there was no perception of getting anywhere. We had somehow become caught in a realm where time was meaningless and the vastness of the land too great to comprehend. The chances of us ever reaching our homes began to seem hopeless.

Yes, I had finally recaptured the feeling some of those early travelers must have experienced, but it wasn’t exactly what I had expected. In an effort to come back to reality, I turned to Jay and said, “It may not seem like it now, as tired as we are, but someday we’ll look back at all this and think of it as a big adventure.” Jay sat in silence for several moments as if contemplating the events of the past few days. “It has been quite an adventure”, he answered softly.

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